Comments on: Nounification of Verbs http://dynamicorange.com/2009/01/27/nounification-of-verbs/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nounification-of-verbs A low-frequency blog by Rob Styles Mon, 19 Dec 2011 07:54:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dan Mull http://dynamicorange.com/2009/01/27/nounification-of-verbs/#comment-4518 Dan Mull Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:25:18 +0000 http://dynamicorange.com/?p=408#comment-4518 Steve Yegge explains similar points in a consumable yet long anecdotal way back in 2006.. http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html Steve Yegge explains similar points in a consumable yet long anecdotal way back in 2006..

http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html

]]> By: Rob Styles http://dynamicorange.com/2009/01/27/nounification-of-verbs/#comment-4517 Rob Styles Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:08:31 +0000 http://dynamicorange.com/?p=408#comment-4517 Difficult one, I wasn't thinking of MVP or MVC when I wrote this. With MVP the presenter provides a mechanism for mapping the domain centric data elements on the model objects to display centric data elements in the view objects. In theory, it would be nice to think that the view knew how to display the domain objects directly, as in Naked Objects, but in practice the UI frameworks we use make that complicated. Also, in practice I suspect it would lead to views that were very specialised. So, the knowledge of how to display a domain object in a view gets pulled out into either a Presenter or a Controller depending on how you're using the terms. Does the fact that lots of clever people do it that way make it right? Probably. Difficult one, I wasn’t thinking of MVP or MVC when I wrote this.

With MVP the presenter provides a mechanism for mapping the domain centric data elements on the model objects to display centric data elements in the view objects.

In theory, it would be nice to think that the view knew how to display the domain objects directly, as in Naked Objects, but in practice the UI frameworks we use make that complicated. Also, in practice I suspect it would lead to views that were very specialised. So, the knowledge of how to display a domain object in a view gets pulled out into either a Presenter or a Controller depending on how you’re using the terms.

Does the fact that lots of clever people do it that way make it right? Probably.

]]> By: Lyndsay http://dynamicorange.com/2009/01/27/nounification-of-verbs/#comment-4516 Lyndsay Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:09:42 +0000 http://dynamicorange.com/?p=408#comment-4516 Thanks for this interesting post. Do you have a similar experience with naming Presenter classes, e.g. XyzPresenter and AbcPresenter, that are part of the MVP pattern (or do you avoid MVP)? Thanks for this interesting post. Do you have a similar experience with naming Presenter classes, e.g. XyzPresenter and AbcPresenter, that are part of the MVP pattern (or do you avoid MVP)?

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